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Do you still follow the PAC 12 wrestling programs - even tho Boise State no longer is a member of same?

Not really.  I've tried to convince myself that I need to support another Pac-12 team, but who....   Oregon State... meh.   Arizona State.... blah.   I've really dropped following wrestling at all, and I miss it.   

 

On a side note, my 11 yr old started wrestling for Middle School a couple of weeks ago and is giving it a try.   I call him the baby giraffe.  He's about 5'3" and 88 pounds, all legs.  He's having a rough go of it right now, but that's to be expected for the first time he's wrestling.   He's been pinned every match outside of one, but I'm really proud of him that he's sticking with it and is trying his best.  

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I still follow PAC 12 wrestling.   About five or six of the channels one gets with Sling TV are the  PAC 12 channels.   And they have a lot of the PAC 12 wrestling matches on those channels (including re-airing them several times - in case you miss them live).   Normally I would drop Sling TV after the football season but instead I keep it thru March to watch those matches as well as watch the PAC 12 tournament in March.  And of course you get all of the ESPN channels with Sling TV as well.

Arizona State is going to be LOADED this year and I'm hearing that one of the Valencia brothers is going to redshirt this year (Anthony - not Zahid).  They will easily win their 3rd straight PAC 12 title this season (and next season and the season after that, etc).   Oregon State - this season - has a lineup that they should be embarrassed about.  Very little talent.  I don't know what Oregon State has been doing as far as recruiting lately but clearly they haven't done much.

I'm surprised you still have an 11 year old.  I figured your boys would all be grown up and on their own by now.   Sounds like your 11 year old needs some individual coaching from his dad.  Teach him how to apply the Surfboard or how to execute a throw like the Cowboy (also referred to as the Nipponese back in my day).

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Yeah, my oldest is 26 (another reason I don't follow high school anymore).   Got tired of the endless nights/weekends in stuffed crowded gyms, but come to really miss it.   We will see if my 11 yr old sticks with it or not.   I have a 9 yr old that I think would be pretty good at it, but I want it to be his choice.  Think he may try freestyle this year if it doesn't get in the way of soccer.   

So who do you follow outside of the PAC?   You should give us a rundown on all the PAC teams and how you think they'll stack up this year.  Similiar to what you used to do in the past on BC.   I'm a fan of Penn State because I really like their style of wrestling, but like I said, I don't keep up with it like I used too.   I have Hulu and they do have several wrestling matches, but I don't think I get the PAC channels.

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I don't follow any other NCAA wrestling teams outside of the PAC 12 - except Wyoming to some extent (I have relatives that are Wyoming wrestling fans)

As to a rundown of the PAC 12 teams this year - that's easy.

# 1.  Arizona State - Three or four of their six 2018 PAC 12 champs and several others who will likely win a PAC 12 championship this year.  Unless they suffer some sort of catastrophic event they will win their 3rd straight PAC 12 championship in March.  I say three or four because of Anthony Valencia and whether he will, in fact, redshirt this season.  He used an Olympic RS as a True FR so he can redshirt this season if he chooses to do so.

# 2. Oregon State - Two and maybe three returning PAC 12 champs.  Three IF Amarveer Dhesi does return for the spring semester (rumor is he may do so).   Eight or Nine returning starters from last season's PAC 12 tournament (again depending on whether Dhesi returns for the spring semester).  They placed 2nd last season to ASU.

# 3. Stanford - Seven returning starters from last season's PAC 12 tournament - They placed 4th last season at the PAC 12 tournament

# 4. Cal State Bakersfield - Six returning starters from last season's PAC 12 tournament. CSUB placed 3rd last season at the PAC 12 tournament

# 5. Cal Poly - As always the worst team in the PAC 12

P.S. I will know more about the various PAC 12 team lineups after this weekend as all of the PAC 12 teams will be competing this weekend - beginning today with Cal State Bakersfield having 3 duals today vs. Kent State, Iowa and Wisconsin (at Kent State) at 2 p.m, 4 p.m. and 6 p.m. Mtn time.  Tomorrow ASU will compete at the Bison Open.  Cal Poly duals Cal Baptist and Cal State Bakersfield has a dual at Pittsburgh.  Also Stanford has a home dual vs. San Francisco State.  Sunday ASU duals South Dakota State and Oregon State will be at the Mike Clock Open.

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Breaking down Arizona State for 2018-2019 - based on who they have wrestling today at the Bison Open

125 lbs -

Ryan Millhof – RS Senior – Currently ranked # 9 in the nation by Intermat.  He transferred to ASU from Oklahoma last year - He was the 2016  Big 12 Champion as a True FR for Oklahoma & 2016 NCAA All-American (7th Place) – 17-7 at 125 lbs last season.  Last season at ASU he placed 2nd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament.  He lost 3-2 to Oregon State's Ronnie Bresser in the championship match.  Bresser is currently ranked # 3 in the nation by Intermat

133 lbs -

Josiah Kline – Sophomore – Transfer from Lock Haven University - 11-8 last season at 125 lbs at Lock Haven - Kline pinned both Josh Kramer and Ted Rico in the ASU intrasquad matches

Josh Kramer – RS Junior – 15-7 last season at 125 lbs last season - Moved up to 133 lbs this season

141 lbs -

Cory Crooks – RS Sophomore – 10-11 at 141 lbs last season

Navonte Demison – RS Freshman

149 lbs -

Josh Maruca – RS Junior – 2017 PAC 12 champion – 21-8 at 149 lbs last season - Currently ranked # 12 in the nation by Intermat

Nikko Villarreal – RS Junior – 15-17 at 141 lbs last season - Moved up to 149 lbs this season

Jacori Teemer – True Freshman - # 1 recruit in the U.S.at 126 lbs – 5 time H.S. NY State champion and 2 time National Champion – Teemer beat Maruca 7-5 at the ASU Intrasquad matches but he will likely be redshirted this season

157 lbs -

Christian Pagdilao – Graduate Student – 2015 PAC 12 champion (149 lbs) – 4-2 at 157 lbs last season

165 lbs -

Josh Shields – RS Junior –2017 and 2018 PAC 12 champion at 157 lbs – 35-4 at 157 lbs last season - Moved up to 165 lbs this season while Anthony Valencia (2018 PAC 12 champ at 165 lbs) redshirts this season - Josh Shields is ranked # 5 in the nation at 157 lbs by Intermat.  Apparently Intermat hasn't heard that Shields has moved up to 165 lbs

174 lbs -

Zahid Valencia – RS Junior – 2018 NCAA Champion – 2017 and 2018 PAC 12 champion – 32-0 at 175 lbs last season - Currently ranked # 1 in the nation by Intermat

184 lbs -

Kordell Norfleet – Sophomore – 2018 PAC 12 champion – 12-12 at 184 lbs last season

197 lbs -

Austyn Harris – RS Senior – 5-10 last season at 197 lbs

Cade Belshay – Sophomore – 8-17 last season at 197 lbs

Chad Porter – RS Freshman

285 lbs -

Tanner Hall – Senior – 2017 PAC 12 champion – 21-8 at 285 lbs last season - Currently ranked # 6 in the nation by Intermat

Brady Daniel – RS Freshman – 9 time H.S. All-American

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, 1977Grad said:

Breaking down Arizona State for 2018-2019 - based on who they have wrestling today at the Bison Open

125 lbs -

Ryan Millhof – RS Senior – Currently ranked # 9 in the nation by Intermat.  He transferred to ASU from Oklahoma last year - He was the 2016  Big 12 Champion as a True FR for Oklahoma & 2016 NCAA All-American (7th Place) – 17-7 at 125 lbs last season.  Last season at ASU he placed 2nd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament.  He lost 3-2 to Oregon State's Ronnie Bresser in the championship match.  Bresser is currently ranked # 3 in the nation by Intermat

133 lbs -

Josiah Kline – Sophomore – Transfer from Lock Haven University - 11-8 last season at 125 lbs at Lock Haven - Kline pinned both Josh Kramer and Ted Rico in the ASU intrasquad matches

Josh Kramer – RS Junior – 15-7 last season at 125 lbs last season - Moved up to 133 lbs this season

141 lbs -

Cory Crooks – RS Sophomore – 10-11 at 141 lbs last season

Navonte Demison – RS Freshman

149 lbs -

Josh Maruca – RS Junior – 2017 PAC 12 champion – 21-8 at 149 lbs last season - Currently ranked # 12 in the nation by Intermat

Nikko Villarreal – RS Junior – 15-17 at 141 lbs last season - Moved up to 149 lbs this season

Jacori Teemer – True Freshman - # 1 recruit in the U.S.at 126 lbs – 5 time H.S. NY State champion and 2 time National Champion – Teemer beat Maruca 7-5 at the ASU Intrasquad matches but he will likely be redshirted this season

157 lbs -

Christian Pagdilao – Graduate Student – 2015 PAC 12 champion (149 lbs) – 4-2 at 157 lbs last season

165 lbs -

Josh Shields – RS Junior –2017 and 2018 PAC 12 champion at 157 lbs – 35-4 at 157 lbs last season - Moved up to 165 lbs this season while Anthony Valencia (2018 PAC 12 champ at 165 lbs) redshirts this season - Josh Shields is ranked # 5 in the nation at 157 lbs by Intermat.  Apparently Intermat hasn't heard that Shields has moved up to 165 lbs

174 lbs -

Zahid Valencia – RS Junior – 2018 NCAA Champion – 2017 and 2018 PAC 12 champion – 32-0 at 175 lbs last season - Currently ranked # 1 in the nation by Intermat

184 lbs -

Kordell Norfleet – Sophomore – 2018 PAC 12 champion – 12-12 at 184 lbs last season

197 lbs -

Austyn Harris – RS Senior – 5-10 last season at 197 lbs

Cade Belshay – Sophomore – 8-17 last season at 197 lbs

Chad Porter – RS Freshman

285 lbs -

Tanner Hall – Senior – 2017 PAC 12 champion – 21-8 at 285 lbs last season - Currently ranked # 6 in the nation by Intermat

Brady Daniel – RS Freshman – 9 time H.S. All-American

 

 

 

 

Meridian High grad.

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Arizona State has at least one wrestler in the finals of the Bison Open today (Bismark N.D.) in every weight class except 197 lbs.  And in two weight classes both of the finalists are from ArizonaState (133 lbs and 165 lbs).   The other major teams competing at this tournament today are North Dakota State, South Dakota State and the University of Minnesota.

ARIZONA STATE FINALISTS AT THE BISON OPEN TODAY

125 lbs - Ryan Milhoff

133 lbs - Josiah Kline and Josh Kramer

141 lbs - Cory Crooks

149 lbs - Josh Maruca

157 lbs - Christian Pagdaliao

165 lbs - Josh Shields and Jacen Petersen

174 lbs - Zahid Valencia

184 lbs - Kordell Norfleet

285 lbs - Tanner Hall

 

 

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And now breaking down Oregon State for 2018-2019

125 lbs

Ronnie Bresser – RS SR – 2015 & 2018 PAC 12 Champion – 2018 NCAA All-American (7th place) - 25-6 at 125 lbs last season

133 lbs

Devan Turner – RS Sophomore – 2-2 last season at 133 lbs - Placed 4th at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 133 lbs

Kegan Calkins – RS SR – 5-5 at 133 lbs last season

141 lbs

Grant Willits – Sophomore – 6-4 last season at 141 lbs

Connor Noonan – RS Sophomore – 17-9 last season at 149 lbs

149 lbs

Josh Reyes – Senior – 10-5 at 149 lbs last season (Formerly at Boise State) - Placed 3rd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 149 lbs

157 lbs

Hunter Willits – Sophomore – 18-16 at 157 lbs last season - Placed 2nd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 157 lbs

165 lbs

Aaron Olmos – RS Sophomore – 14-5 last season at 165 lbs

174 lbs

Colt Doyle – RS Junior – 2-2 last season at 174 lbs

184 lbs

Myles Terry – Sophomore – 10-16 at 174 lbs last season - Placed 3rd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 174 lbs (moved up to 184 lbs this season)

Bob Coleman – Junior – 19-11 last season at 184 lbs - Placed 4th at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 184 lbs

197 lbs

Corey Griego – RS Senior – 21-7 last season at 197 lbs – 2017 & 2018 PAC 12 champ at 197 lbs

285 lbs

Amarveer Dhesi – Graduate (He may or may NOT re-join the Oregon State team 2nd semester) – 2016 & 2018 PAC 12 champ at 285 lbs – Placed 5th at 2016 NCAA tournament and Placed 3rd at 2018 NCAA tournament

Jamarcus Grant – RS Sophomore

 

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17 hours ago, Broncowilly said:

Thanks 77!

One POSSIBLE addition to the ASU lineup is Central Michigan transfer Mason Smith at 141 lbs.   He WAS on the ASU roster last week and then suddenly his name was removed.  There were also a number of articles on the ASU wrestling website regarding his transfer from CMU to ASU as far back as last May.   I have no clue why his name was suddenly removed from the ASU team roster but I think it's possible he may be on the ASU team roster next semester.  Mason Smith was ranked as high as # 6 in the nation last season for CMU but I think he finished just outside the top 10 last season.

Also some are saying Tanner Hall is going to be redshirted this season.  And there appears to be some truth to that rumor as Tanner Hall competed last weekend at the Bison Open in Bismark, N.D., where he finished in 2nd place, BUT he competed as "Unattached" ASU.   Also, in ASU's first dual of the season, last Sunday, the heavyweight for ASU was RS Freshman Brady Daniel - i.e., not Hall.  Plus Hall has not utilized his Redshirt season previously.

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Breaking down Stanford's lineup for the 2018-2019 season:

125 lbs

Gabriel Townsell – JR – 2018 NCAA Qualifier at 125 lbs – 12-8 at 125 lbs in 2017-18 - Placed 4th at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 125 lbs

Brian Rossi – RS SR – 0-4 at 125 lbs in 2017-18

133 lbs

Mason Pengilly – RS SR – 2018 NCAA Qualifier at 133 lbs – 4-3 at 133 lbs in 2017-18 - Placed 2nd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 133 lbs

Anthony Le – SO – 5-9 at 133 lbs in 2017-18

141 lbs

Jack Ramalia – RS FR – 9-3 at 149 lbs in 2017-18 (Dropped down to 141 lbs for this season)

149 lbs

Requir van der Merwe – RS SO – 9-3 at 149 lbs in 2017-18

Walker Dempsey – RS SR – 1-0 at 149 lbs in 2017-18

Jake Barry - RS SO - 7-19 at 149 lbs in 2017-18 - Placed 4th at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 149 lbs

157 lbs

Paul Fox – RS SR – 2018 NCAA Qualifier at 157 lbs – 23-9 at 157 lbs in 2017-18 - Placed 3rd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 157 lbs

Jared Hill – RS SO – 7-13 at 165 lbs in 2017-18 - Placed 3rd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 165 lbs (dropped down to 157 lbs this season)

165 lbs

Dominick Mandarino – RS FR 8-4 at 165 lbs in 2017-18

Brandon Dallavia – RS SO – 10-13 at 165 lbs in 2017-18

Shane Griffith – True FR

174 lbs

Rico Stormer – Grad Student – Transfer from Harvard – Went 13-25 in 3 years at Harvard

184 lbs

Austin Flores – RS JR – 3-8 at 184 lbs in 2017-18 - Placed 5th (Last) at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 184 lbs

Judah Duhm – SO – 14-7 at 184 lbs in 2017-18

197 lbs

Nathan Traxler – RS SO – 2018 NCAA Qualifier – 19-12 at 197 lbs in 2017-18 - Placed 3rd at 2018 PAC 12 tournament at 197 lbs

285 lbs

Trevor Rassmussen – RS JR – 9-9 at 285 lbs in 2017-18

Hadyn Maley – RS FR

David Showunmi – RS JR

 

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Most college wrestling matches that I have been to in my 64 years on this planet were a terrific time.   And the # of NCAA wrestling matches I've been to is very likely well over 100.  I've also been to at LEAST a dozen NCAA wrestling tournaments - it's probably more than that.  However I've never been to the NCAA national championships.   BroncoWilly has me beat on that - as I KNOW he's been to at least one NCAA national championship for wrestling. 

NCAA wrestling fans are not the reserved types who sit on their hands.  Quite the opposite.  They REALLY get into the matches - particularly the really exciting matches that occur in NCAA wrestling.

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I have been to only one, but I'm been thinking about going again since I got back.  Would be really tough to justify going now that Boise State doesn't have a team though.   It was a great time and I really enjoyed Philly!

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Breaking down the CSUB wrestling team for this season (Cal State University at Bakersfield that is)

125 lbs

Alex Hernandez-Figueroa – RS SO – 9-6 at 125 lbs in 2017-2018

133 lbs

Sean Nickell – RS SR – 24-12 at 133 lbs in 2017-2018 - Nickell placed 3rd at 133 lbs at the 2018 PAC 12 tournament

141 lbs

Carlos Herrera – RS JR – 12-8 at 141 lbs in 2017-2018

149 lbs

Russell Rohlfing – RS JR – 22-12 at 141 lbs in 2017-2018 - Rohlfing placed 2nd last season at 141 lbs at the 2018 PAC 12 tournament.  He's moved up to 149 lbs this season.

157 lbs

Wyatt Gerl – JR - Transfer from Cerritos J.C. - Placed 5th last season at the CCCAA championships last season (CA J.C. State tournament)

Josh Annis – RS JR - Went 11-4 last season at CSUB as a redshirting J.C. transfer from Fresno J.C.

165 lbs

Jacob Thalin – RS JR – 7-4 at 157 lbs in 2017-2018

174 lbs

Bryan Battisto – RS SR – 12-16 at 174 lbs in 2017-2018 - Battisto placed 4th at 174 lbs at the 2018 PAC 12 tournament

184 lbs

Dominic Ducharme – RS SO – 18-15 at 184 lbs in 2017-18 - Ducharme placed 3rd at 184 lbs at the 2018 PAC 12 tournament

197 lbs

Mark Penyacsek – RS SO - Went 7-16 last season at 285 lbs - Now he's at 197 lbs this season

285 lbs

Dominic Balmer – RS JR – 10-5 at 285 lbs in 2017-18

Jacob Sieder – RS SO – 6-7 at 285 lbs while redshirting last season

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On 11/8/2018 at 4:17 PM, Broncowilly said:

Yeah, my oldest is 26 (another reason I don't follow high school anymore).   Got tired of the endless nights/weekends in stuffed crowded gyms, but come to really miss it.   We will see if my 11 yr old sticks with it or not.   I have a 9 yr old that I think would be pretty good at it, but I want it to be his choice.  Think he may try freestyle this year if it doesn't get in the way of soccer.   

So who do you follow outside of the PAC?   You should give us a rundown on all the PAC teams and how you think they'll stack up this year.  Similiar to what you used to do in the past on BC.   I'm a fan of Penn State because I really like their style of wrestling, but like I said, I don't keep up with it like I used too.   I have Hulu and they do have several wrestling matches, but I don't think I get the PAC channels.

Looks like the rumor that Amarveer Dhesi is returning to Oregon State for one more year is true:

https://osubeavers.com/news/2018/12/4/wrestling-dhesi-to-return-to-oregon-state-for-final-season.aspx

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12 hours ago, Broncowilly said:

I'm not even sure who that is.  I'll have to do some research.  

Amarveer Dhesi is a two time PAC 12 heavyweight champion (from Canada).  He is also the defending PAC 12 champion at 285 lbs and he placed 3rd at the 2018 NCAA tournament at 285 lbs.  Dhesi defeated # 8 ranked Nathan Butler of Stanford in the 2018 PAC 12 finals by Majority Decision (11-2).

Dhesi also placed 5th at the 2016 NCAA tournament at 285 lbs and was the 2016 PAC 12 champion at 285 lbs.   He missed all of the 2017 season due to injury.

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Also, the dude he lost to is Cohlton Schultz (Ponderosa, Colo.) He's going to wrestle for  Arizona State.

Looks like Ben Dooley wrestled for Moscow (ID) as a freshman at 195.  Placed third in the district (lost to an eventual state champion from Grangeville).  Then he moved to Fallon, and placed 2nd in Nevada 3A state championships at 220.  Then won state as a 285 lb junior.  And will likely repeat again as a senior in the 285 lb weight class.

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